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moss
moss
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Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 10:22
Well looking through the news this morning, noticed that Mick Aston is leaving TT because they are bringing in younger presenters. Actually I like Alex Langland, he was in the Victorian Farm reconstruction series. Anyway Mick Aston is angry about it as you can see.....

"The time had come to leave. I never made any money out of it, but a lot of my soul went into it. I feel really, really angry about it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9068025/Mick-Aston-quits-Time-Team-after-producers-hire-former-model-co-presenter.html
tjj
tjj
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Edited Feb 08, 2012, 11:17
Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 11:14
moss wrote:
Well looking through the news this morning, noticed that Mick Aston is leaving TT because they are bringing in younger presenters. Actually I like Alex Langland, he was in the Victorian Farm reconstruction series. Anyway Mick Aston is angry about it as you can see.....

"The time had come to leave. I never made any money out of it, but a lot of my soul went into it. I feel really, really angry about it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9068025/Mick-Aston-quits-Time-Team-after-producers-hire-former-model-co-presenter.html


Hmm! Sounds like Mick Aston feels a bit threatened .. it comes to us all eventually as we grow older - sometimes it is a case of stepping aside for younger people to have their chance. I note a lot has been made of new female presenter being a former model, though obviously a lot more than 'just a pretty face'
Miss Ochota, 30, holds a master’s degree in archaeology and anthropology from Cambridge University and has previously done modelling work, including shoots for Special K.

All the young female presenters that have joined programmes like Countryfile and Countrytracks are articulate, adept and yes, attractive .. I hate them too.
drewbhoy
drewbhoy
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Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 14:03
Ah Tjj, you just have to admire their considerable knowledge and their sheer determination to get to the top.
CARL
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Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 15:01
It won't be the same without Prof Mick. Him, Tony and Phil have been the bedrock of the series. I hope he has a change of heart. If not - good luck Mick and thanks for all the entertainment .
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 15:54
moss wrote:
Well looking through the news this morning, noticed that Mick Aston is leaving TT because they are bringing in younger presenters. Actually I like Alex Langland, he was in the Victorian Farm reconstruction series. Anyway Mick Aston is angry about it as you can see.....

"The time had come to leave. I never made any money out of it, but a lot of my soul went into it. I feel really, really angry about it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9068025/Mick-Aston-quits-Time-Team-after-producers-hire-former-model-co-presenter.html


That's a real shame as I liked Mick. I don't like making comparisons, especially about an unrelated programme, but in my other life I train and work sheepdogs and One Man & His Dog was the Time Team equivelent. Both were/are hugely popular but once the original presenters of OM&HS left the scene it was never the same again with 'celebrities' who knew sod all about dogs or the countryside fronting it until recently when Matt Baker took the helm. At least he farms and has run in a trial or two so knows a bit. Mick will be missed and I hope they all have a change of heart.
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 16:04
tjj wrote:
moss wrote:
Well looking through the news this morning, noticed that Mick Aston is leaving TT because they are bringing in younger presenters. Actually I like Alex Langland, he was in the Victorian Farm reconstruction series. Anyway Mick Aston is angry about it as you can see.....

"The time had come to leave. I never made any money out of it, but a lot of my soul went into it. I feel really, really angry about it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9068025/Mick-Aston-quits-Time-Team-after-producers-hire-former-model-co-presenter.html


Hmm! Sounds like Mick Aston feels a bit threatened .. it comes to us all eventually as we grow older - sometimes it is a case of stepping aside for younger people to have their chance. I note a lot has been made of new female presenter being a former model, though obviously a lot more than 'just a pretty face'
Miss Ochota, 30, holds a master’s degree in archaeology and anthropology from Cambridge University and has previously done modelling work, including shoots for Special K.

All the young female presenters that have joined programmes like Countryfile and Countrytracks are articulate, adept and yes, attractive .. I hate them too.


Yes and one of them fronted the World Sheepdog trial turning this wonderful spectacle into a farce by her total lack of knowledge. She actually asked an American competitor if she had a dog herself showing what a complete airhead she was seeing you had to seriously qualify a dog for the event!! I felt a bit like that when Sandy 'Toxteeth' was on TT a few series back now :-)
tjj
tjj
1763 posts

Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 16:13
Sanctuary wrote:
tjj wrote:
moss wrote:
Well looking through the news this morning, noticed that Mick Aston is leaving TT because they are bringing in younger presenters. Actually I like Alex Langland, he was in the Victorian Farm reconstruction series. Anyway Mick Aston is angry about it as you can see.....

"The time had come to leave. I never made any money out of it, but a lot of my soul went into it. I feel really, really angry about it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9068025/Mick-Aston-quits-Time-Team-after-producers-hire-former-model-co-presenter.html


Hmm! Sounds like Mick Aston feels a bit threatened .. it comes to us all eventually as we grow older - sometimes it is a case of stepping aside for younger people to have their chance. I note a lot has been made of new female presenter being a former model, though obviously a lot more than 'just a pretty face'
Miss Ochota, 30, holds a master’s degree in archaeology and anthropology from Cambridge University and has previously done modelling work, including shoots for Special K.

All the young female presenters that have joined programmes like Countryfile and Countrytracks are articulate, adept and yes, attractive .. I hate them too.


Yes and one of them fronted the World Sheepdog trial turning this wonderful spectacle into a farce by her total lack of knowledge. She actually asked an American competitor if she had a dog herself showing what a complete airhead she was seeing you had to seriously qualify a dog for the event!! I felt a bit like that when Sandy 'Toxteeth' was on TT a few series back now :-)


Tch! Tch! A little bit of sexism going on here I suspect. Mick Aston's choice to leave the programme, he hasn't been sacked. It is possible to be an intelligent woman and be attractive.
moss
moss
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Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 16:58
Well the post arrived this morning with the latest mag from Britarch and an exclusive interview with Mick Aston, he is featured prominently on the cover.

Mike Pitts says in his forward preamble ..

"will Time Team survive without Mick Aston? Perhaps
Can you take Mick and Time Team out of British Archaeology? Never"

I think that is the answer, he was a very prominent likeable personality and Channel 4 might well rue the day he decided to step down because of the new presenters and changes.....

In his interview ( too long to quote here) he makes mention of the Time Team being invited down to London to watch Countryfile, (he didn't go) and of course the new presenters on that programme, but the message was clear. Several of the experienced staff had already left when the team moved from London to Cardiff, and he just seems to have become more miserable at the way TT was being handled.
What stands out is that archaeology is being sold (as is so many programmes these days) with vibrant young people but who have little experience in the actual subject they are presenting!
Anyway good for Mike Pitts that he is making such a statement about the loss of one our most enthusiastic archaeologists, and shame on Channel 4 for dumbing down as Mick Aston says...
Spaceship mark
Spaceship mark
1436 posts

Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 17:37
I saw Tim Taylor speak at a conference a few years ago, he told how TT gets it's 1.7m viewers or whatever, week in, week out, with no publicity from Ch4 (I certainly almost missed the new series starting).
BUT, it has changed over the years, just try watching some of the very old episodes on UKTVRepeats. These days the reconstuctions look shoddy and quaint and they struggled much more to make a show when, frankly, they hadn't found anything.
I've actually enjoyed the presenter/co-presenter dynamic of this new series. Mary Ann is much more likely to listen than Tony was for starters and, as had been mentioned, she isn't just some 'airhead' but at least has relevant academic qualifications. Don't get me wrong, Mick will be a huge loss, but the show has survived a number of his prolonged, illness and (IIRC) gammy leg related, absences. Francis Pryor is much less annoying that he was when he first started to appear on TT (and has ALMOST shut up about the 'realm of the dead' and chucking swords in streams). So, if Mick wants to grump off let him. Not many shows can get away with peddling exactly the same format for 20 odd years and, whether the progression is slow or sudden they must change. Imagine if, I don't know, Blue Peter was the same as it was in the 60s...

Now, if they can just get a bit more Bettany Hughes and bring Dr Alice Roberts back I'll be truly satisfied...
goffik
goffik
3570 posts

Re: Time Team 2012 - "cliche-ridden pap"
Feb 08, 2012, 17:48
Well said! :)

And I agree - more chicks. ;)

G x
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