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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 10, 2012, 00:07
thesweetcheat wrote:
It doesn't get much grimmer, does it? That's what happens when sites are abandoned and no-one knows what they are. The locals won't take pride in a place like that, not without increasing awareness of what it is they're trashing.

That picture epitomises, for me anyway, what I tried to get across earlier in the thread about the need to get out there and champion these forgotten sites. For me, this should be getting every bit as much priority as the well known show sites. And this isn't a remote site on a mountain top, it's close to habitation. It could easily be transformed into something worth caring about.



Equally though we need to keep in mind, given the reaction posted up to locals understandably hurt by the stunt pulled at Uffington, that those that do take pride can then be castigated as unrealistic and spoilsports unless they are given wider support.
GLADMAN
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 10, 2012, 01:48
VBB wrote:
Equally though we need to keep in mind, given the reaction posted up to locals understandably hurt by the stunt pulled at Uffington, that those that do take pride can then be castigated as unrealistic and spoilsports unless they are given wider support.


True enough. But in the end it comes down to the question of which side of the 'fence' are you on? Don't get me wrong, since I have South Walian family (although I completely disown my sister's worthless father-in-law) .... but my experience is that rugby, not heritage, plays by far the more important role in South Walian society. In short, most people simply do not give a damn in South Wales... I would seriously doubt whether who ever made the fire in the Fleming Down enclosure's ditch even had an inkling of what he/she was doing. The moron.
Resonox
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 10, 2012, 08:03
GLADMAN wrote:
VBB wrote:
Equally though we need to keep in mind, given the reaction posted up to locals understandably hurt by the stunt pulled at Uffington, that those that do take pride can then be castigated as unrealistic and spoilsports unless they are given wider support.


True enough. But in the end it comes down to the question of which side of the 'fence' are you on? Don't get me wrong, since I have South Walian family (although I completely disown my sister's worthless father-in-law) .... but my experience is that rugby, not heritage, plays by far the more important role in South Walian society. In short, most people simply do not give a damn in South Wales... I would seriously doubt whether who ever made the fire in the Fleming Down enclosure's ditch even had an inkling of what he/she was doing. The moron.


People still do things like this even when they do know what damage they are causing....it usually happens in sheltered areas where they can sit around a roaring fire getting tanked up free from prying eyes....but some sites (later ones) get abused like this during bank holidays during the day.....Bramber Castle is a prime example,,,it is magnet for the Jeremy Kyle fodder who use it as their personal picnic ground, disco and football pitch....local authority is unable or unwilling to police the matter.
VBB
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 10, 2012, 09:32
Resonox wrote:
GLADMAN wrote:
VBB wrote:
Equally though we need to keep in mind, given the reaction posted up to locals understandably hurt by the stunt pulled at Uffington, that those that do take pride can then be castigated as unrealistic and spoilsports unless they are given wider support.


True enough. But in the end it comes down to the question of which side of the 'fence' are you on? Don't get me wrong, since I have South Walian family (although I completely disown my sister's worthless father-in-law) .... but my experience is that rugby, not heritage, plays by far the more important role in South Walian society. In short, most people simply do not give a damn in South Wales... I would seriously doubt whether who ever made the fire in the Fleming Down enclosure's ditch even had an inkling of what he/she was doing. The moron.


People still do things like this even when they do know what damage they are causing....it usually happens in sheltered areas where they can sit around a roaring fire getting tanked up free from prying eyes....but some sites (later ones) get abused like this during bank holidays during the day.....Bramber Castle is a prime example,,,it is magnet for the Jeremy Kyle fodder who use it as their personal picnic ground, disco and football pitch....local authority is unable or unwilling to police the matter.



This all has historic echoes. If we recall the introduction of Sir John Lubbock's ancient monuments protection legislation in 1882, the two main arguments against it were that privately owned monuments were not anyone else's business, and that monuments such as Avebury and Stonehenge were "Celtic" - therefore foreign and not English - thereby of no importance. Similarly, there is little doubt that the damage Stukeley was complaining about at Avebury was excused by megaliths being believed to be Roman, and were therefore a target for both Anglicans and non-Conformists.
GLADMAN
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 12, 2012, 21:51
Maiden Bower.... just a taster.

http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/105423.jpg
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 13, 2012, 08:47
Aargh!
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 13, 2012, 12:27
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/105491/cwmade_barrow.html
drewbhoy
drewbhoy
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 13, 2012, 23:49
That type of thing does my head in.
drewbhoy
drewbhoy
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Re: GROUP HUG
Mar 13, 2012, 23:51
Don't know about the Middle East, but I know one North East chappie is about to re-emerge!
drewbhoy
drewbhoy
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Re: Climbing on Standing Stones
Mar 13, 2012, 23:58
Still I remember when Corrstone was a rubbish tip until somebody and his pals went and cleaned up the mess. About a dozen skips did the job and the farmer let us do it as well. And as you saw he keeps the place pretty tidily now. Sometimes direct action works a treat.
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