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Horsedrawn 55 posts |
May 03, 2011, 20:39
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No. If I may take the liberty of replying to a question to a colleague; the noon sequence has been observed only in April, September, February, March, May and the winter and summer solstice, so far. I do not make my claims lightly, there is a lot that remains to be done, and I find it difficult to express how grateful I am for the interest that has been shown. Keep these questions coming, and together we move the thing forward.
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nigelswift 6120 posts |
May 03, 2011, 20:48
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Well it has me stumped how it can happen. The "persistent vision" thing isn't the reason because that can only reflect what's there - and what's there is a corona that's a millionth of the brightness of the sun and the effect of doing what has been suggested by your colleague above "when you stand in the shadow of the capstone and look at the Sun through it, the effect is that the intense glare of the sky around it is almost completely removed" is to reduce the brightness of the corona in direct proportion to the reduction in the brightness of the sky so you're no nearer seeing it than before.
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Horsedrawn 55 posts |
May 03, 2011, 21:30
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The 'persistent vision' question is largely irrelevant in this context, but not in others. The fact remains however that the Solar Corona can be observed. I reiterate: viewed at an angle the solar corona can be gazed upon, in the same way as with a coronograph, but in this case it is the glare of the sky that is obscured and not the solar disc itself. I only know this because it is possible and I, and others, have done it. Viewed in this way the true nature of the sun is revealed. Green, blue, yellow, black; heaving and boiling, and in this way we share a direct physical experience with the builders and users of this structure. This has to be seen to be believed. Again, I say, none of these claims are made lightly. The effect upon the eye and the mind is sensational, and I invite anyone who is sceptical to come and try it. Keep the questions coming.
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nigelswift 6120 posts |
May 03, 2011, 21:44
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"Viewed in this way the true nature of the sun is revealed. Green, blue, yellow, black; heaving and boiling" Got a photo?
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Horsedrawn 55 posts |
May 03, 2011, 22:38
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No. The camera cannot capture this effect; at least not the several cameras used to date. I am not a photographer, and whether it is possible to photograph this effect I do not know. All I do know is that it can be done: the sun can be observed through the aperture when it is high in the sky. Later in the PM, when the sun has travelled further to the west it can be observed through the 'virtual aperture' formed by the 'portal' stones, for want of a better name, and the effect is the same; the sun can be gazed upon. This, I know, flies in the face of the old advice..never look directly @ the sun, but it can be done, and I say again, come and try it. I am indebted to Professor North for pointing out the physics of this quality in ancient sites and I have to say that his thinking has formed the basis for the present study which without him could not have proceeded. But proceeded by leaps and bounds it has. Something of the techniques on show @ Newgrange and Loughcrew, (Cairn T), apply @ Trethevy but in the open air not underground. This is a complicated subject but I think I can supply a fairly cogent explanation of the Optical Dynamics, and the physics thereof, involved. This is all new ground, comrade, so please bear with me. Nobody has considered these aspects before, not even Lockyer, to whom I am also indebted, or even Stukely, for that matter. At the moment I am confident enough to stand by all I have said as regards Solar usage @ Trethevy; the evidence is compelling. I came here in search of an ancient astronomy, the basics of which none of us would disagree on, the evidence elsewhere is strong, and lately largely accepted. I found little that made sense in an acceptable 'archeoastronomical' way, apart from the fact that the quoit is perfectly situated for astronomy, like so many other sites; a natural observatory. It reveals itself in other ways, and these form the basis of the present study, which to be frank could not be more intensive. It is on this basis, and on this level that I am eager to answer any more questions. David Kane.
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Resonox 604 posts |
May 04, 2011, 05:36
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Is there any evidence on the flora of the area around the time the dolmen was erected...what if it had originally been surrounded by trees(in a copse for example)???
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StoneGloves 1148 posts |
May 04, 2011, 06:30
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What they're seeing is lens flare. Part of the eye is a lens, after all. Shame really, as I thought they were on to something. Still no measurement of the aperture, anything but ... A load of surveyor's possessions went through the local auction yesterday. Cameras, squares, walking sticks. Lovely cameras - almost pristine. Ruminated on the uncaring nature of descendants. Found an interesting, but tiny, stater amongst the Roman detectorists' coins. Sonicator going flat out today!
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nigelswift 6120 posts |
May 04, 2011, 06:40
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StoneGloves wrote: What they're seeing is lens flare. Part of the eye is a lens, after all. Good call. That, but converted to a retained image perhaps. What is NOT possible to see IMO is the corona or "boiling", whatever the qualities of the hole. When I had younger eyes and they were more frequent and bigger I often saw sunspots at sunset. Haven't seen them lately though.
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Sanctuary 3394 posts |
May 04, 2011, 07:16
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Resonox wrote: Is there any evidence on the flora of the area around the time the dolmen was erected...what if it had originally been surrounded by trees(in a copse for example)??? Local author Philip Henwood (Prehistoric East Cornwall 2007) says:- At the time of its construction, probably in the first half of the fourth millennium, Trethevy Quoit would have been surrounded by forest and a clearing made for its erection. To make it a more impressive focal point, avenues were most likely cut through the forest, terminating at the site. I would go along with most of that regarding the tree cover but the site area itself may have been devoid of substantial trees because of the thin layer of topsoil present. But who really knows?
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StoneGloves 1148 posts |
May 04, 2011, 10:38
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There's a good picture on here ( http://www.spaceweather.com/ ) today. Thom writes about the green flash, but I've never seen it.
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