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moss
moss
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Second henge
Jul 28, 2010, 17:32
Picking a couple of paragraphs from Maeve Kennedy's article on the front page, and which she has got somewhat wrong, must have missed Silbury on the journey down ......

"Famously – to its comparatively few devotees and visitors, that is – it is the biggest henge in Britain that isn't there, surrounding one of the biggest artificial hills in Britain, which isn't there either"

"and the wholly unexpected discovery – the second, smaller henge so close to the modern houses that the roots of two trees at the foot of a back garden are actually growing into its bank."

There we are two-a penny henges, all over the place, swept clean and tidied up before they move on.

http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/89170/news/marden_henge_and_hatfield_barrow.html
VBB
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Re: Second henge
Jul 29, 2010, 05:40
moss wrote:
Picking a couple of paragraphs from Maeve Kennedy's article on the front page, and which she has got somewhat wrong, must have missed Silbury on the journey down ......

"Famously – to its comparatively few devotees and visitors, that is – it is the biggest henge in Britain that isn't there, surrounding one of the biggest artificial hills in Britain, which isn't there either"

"and the wholly unexpected discovery – the second, smaller henge so close to the modern houses that the roots of two trees at the foot of a back garden are actually growing into its bank."

There we are two-a penny henges, all over the place, swept clean and tidied up before they move on.

http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/89170/news/marden_henge_and_hatfield_barrow.html


Not sure I am with you Moss. There is a bit of a mystery infused glaze to media reporting to promote why 'the public' that have never heard of it should be interested, but I thought Maev conveyed the feel of this particular dig rather well. Her writing will make some want to know more, job done.

There is rather a lot to think about when you get past all the have you never heard of stuff. Hence I attempted to highlight the bank archaeology on another thread. From being one of the least talked about aspects, other than the cliche of it not being defensive, to have to think of banks as more than spoil from the ditch is an enforced leap for public thinking. And I am not just saying that because I loathe seeing those wooden staircases at Avebury (though I do, albeit something had to be done). There was a serious proposal to mount a wooden staircase on Silbury - can you imagine that?
moss
moss
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Edited Jul 29, 2010, 07:22
Re: Second henge
Jul 29, 2010, 06:05
Not sure I am with you Moss. There is a bit of a mystery infused glaze to media reporting to promote why 'the public' that have never heard of it should be interested, but I thought Maev conveyed the feel of this particular dig rather well. Her writing will make some want to know more, job done.

There is rather a lot to think about when you get past all the have you never heard of stuff. Hence I attempted to highlight the bank archaeology on another thread. From being one of the least talked about aspects, other than the cliche of it not being defensive, to have to think of banks as more than spoil from the ditch is an enforced leap for public thinking. And I am not just saying that because I loathe seeing those wooden staircases at Avebury (though I do, albeit something had to be done). There was a serious proposal to mount a wooden staircase on Silbury - can you imagine that?


Hi VBB, Yes it was a very good article by Maeve Kennedy hence the reason for highlighting it, it was just nit-picking on my part about forgetting that Silbury was the tallest artifical hill. As for wooden stairs, the roman Bartlow barrows in Cambridgeshire which are very tall, have wooden steps up the side, and it may protect the barrows but it looks horrible and on Silbury would look even worse.

The point that the houses are on top of the bank of the henge of course turns theories upside down, to me it points that henges are specific gathering places, whether for ceremony or to construct another monument somewhere else in the landscape. But I also think that henges must be classed using different names because they may be function in different ways - corralling animals maybe if people have to live on the banks of the henge....
VBB
224 posts

Re: Second henge
Jul 29, 2010, 07:34
moss wrote:
Not sure I am with you Moss. There is a bit of a mystery infused glaze to media reporting to promote why 'the public' that have never heard of it should be interested, but I thought Maev conveyed the feel of this particular dig rather well. Her writing will make some want to know more, job done.

There is rather a lot to think about when you get past all the have you never heard of stuff. Hence I attempted to highlight the bank archaeology on another thread. From being one of the least talked about aspects, other than the cliche of it not being defensive, to have to think of banks as more than spoil from the ditch is an enforced leap for public thinking. And I am not just saying that because I loathe seeing those wooden staircases at Avebury (though I do, albeit something had to be done). There was a serious proposal to mount a wooden staircase on Silbury - can you imagine that?


Hi VBB, Yes it was a very good article by Maeve Kennedy hence the reason for highlighting it, it was just nit-picking on my part about forgetting that Silbury was the tallest artifical hill. As for wooden stairs, the roman Bartlow barrows in Cambridgeshire which are very tall, have wooden steps up the side, and it may protect the barrows but it looks horrible and on Silbury would look even worse.

The point that the houses are on top of the bank of the henge of course turns theories upside down, to me it points that henges are specific gathering places, whether for ceremony or to construct another monument somewhere else in the landscape. But I also think that henges must be classed using different names because they may be function in different ways - corralling animals maybe if people have to live on the banks of the henge....


It has long bugged that the rural district built houses into the lip of Marden henge in the same period they were attempting to move folk out of Avebury, it is then some irony that the ancient building at Marden mirrors those of Hatfields that were built into the outer henge bank half a century ago.
Littlestone
Littlestone
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Re: Marden Henge dig uncovers 4,500-year-old dwelling
Jul 29, 2010, 12:23
Bit more here - http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/8299709.Feast_of_finds_at_Marden/

The team also discovered a midden, or rubbish tip, with evidence of great feasting. The 5,000-year-old bones of pigs, some still attached to each other, have been found in perfect condition.


Our ancestors were certainly fond of their bacon : -)
lilydee05
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Re: Marden Henge dig uncovers 4,500-year-old dwelling
Aug 07, 2010, 20:04
Hi all - I was lucky enough to go on one of the tours that Jim Leary was doing and there was a number of things found of real interest to me and I'm sure to many other people out there! This info was freely given by Jim and hopefully there isn't a problem with me telling you what he was openly telling the world himself, so here it goes!

The first was that the entrance to the henge nearest the river had a cobbled road/path in what appears to be going in the direction towards the river (notably the river that then connects to Durrington Walls), Jim said this road/path is very similar to the road found by Prof Parker Pearson at Durrington Walls. The one at MH appears to be constructed of stones bought onto site.

I asked the question about sarsen stones on site and he said they have found a few fragments but he clearly said this wasn't unexpected because the whole area, even the Plain has traces of sarsen, big and small - he said they had found no evidence of standing stones at MH!

The henge was quite interesting also in the fact that he said it appears to be raised in the centre, my first thought was of a burial mound, can't quite recall the terminology but think it's along the lines of a pond barrow or bowl barrow (something like this - perhaps someone can help me out there!) but maybe my thoughts are completely wrong there! He said that grooved ware pottery, a bone pin, flint flakes and articulated pig bones were found in the trench on the henge bank, can't remember if this was in the house or in the midden just outside on the bank.

He said also that when they excavated the hatfield "barrow" they found what appears to be a post hole in the centre and a flint blade and bone was found in the infill.

All in all, it was a very good tour and there were masses of people there to take in all the info and knowledge, so a big thumbs up to the organisers!
goffik
goffik
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Re: Marden Henge dig uncovers 4,500-year-old dwell
Aug 07, 2010, 20:22
Excellent update, LilyDee!

Ah, the water connection again... They all laughed when I used to talk of it (granted, mostly in terms of wells, but obviously I meant ancient waterways in general ;) )

Interesting about the post hole on top of Hatfield Barrow! Wonder what it was for? Flagpole? Beacon? Maypole? ;)

Sounds like a really open and informative tour. I've been following the dig on various rss feeds and news feeds, and it's quite some find! Must have been thriulling to be involved.

Thanks for sharing. :) Did ya take any photos?

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