handofdave
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Edited Jan 14, 2010, 18:40
Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 14, 2010, 18:39
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sanshee wrote: Your analysis of what I posted misses the point.
I just thought you were extrapolating a bit widely.
Robertson is also on record blaming 9/11 for America's acceptance of gays. His utterances aren't so much a product of religion as they are sheer bigotry (and an massive degree of superstitious crap thinking).
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sanshee
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Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 14, 2010, 22:23
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Nah, I was referring to the Robertson carachter by comparing him to and so including him in the certain breed that epitomises that type of religious reasoning.
How can an earthquake have anything to do with 'religion'?
That's silly, and not all what I was saying!
As far as his comments go on 9/11 and homeosexuality, well Mother Theresa would refuse AIDS victims medicines (that she had access to) coz she thought they 'brought it on themselves'. Doctors who volunteered to work with her documented this. Instead she'd offer to wipe their brow and 'bless them' better. Only that makes her the more charitable of the two.
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drewbhoy
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Edited Jan 14, 2010, 23:23
Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 14, 2010, 23:22
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Just read what Pat Robertson had to say to CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/01/13/haiti.pat.robertson/
In word's he'd know to well, Pat Roberston-you can go to hell! What a complete prick!
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Jim Tones
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The "700 Club".
Jan 15, 2010, 12:38
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Many moons ago in the 80s, whilst working in Israel/Palastine (the 'holy' land), there used to be a middle east tv channel for the communities of christian arabs/foreign workers etc. which would show Robinson's "700 Club".
It was hilarious and quite obvious that he was blatantly duping people to send in their money.
He would be reading out a list of people's ailments and then qive one big prayer/blessing to cure everyone at the end.... then there would be a few last minute stragglers coming through....
".....er this just in....we have a bulbous ankle........that's a bulbous ankle in Wyoming...."
A very bizarre show indeed.
Wasn't he the centre of some sexual scandal or something?
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handofdave
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Re: The
Jan 15, 2010, 13:07
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Jim Tones wrote: Wasn't he the centre of some sexual scandal or something?
Under the umbrella of the 700 club there were a few televangelists who got into trouble, yeah... the Bakers, who spent their fans donations lavishly on themselves (Tammy Faye would regularly cry on camera, smearing her mascara all over the place). He went to prison for that. Jimmy Swaggart was caught soliciting prostitutes. He made a big show out of begging his fans for forgiveness.
Here's a nice long list of sanctimonious shitheads who preached one thing and did another...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals
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drewbhoy
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Re: The
Jan 15, 2010, 13:20
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handofdave wrote: Jim Tones wrote: Wasn't he the centre of some sexual scandal or something?
Under the umbrella of the 700 club there were a few televangelists who got into trouble, yeah... the Bakers, who spent their fans donations lavishly on themselves (Tammy Faye would regularly cry on camera, smearing her mascara all over the place). He went to prison for that. Jimmy Swaggart was caught soliciting prostitutes. He made a big show out of begging his fans for forgiveness.
Here's a nice long list of sanctimonious shitheads who preached one thing and did another...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_evangelist_scandals
Looks like Jimmy Swaggart would have loved a Senate Probe.
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Merrick
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Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 15, 2010, 14:21
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dodge one wrote: Thats over the rainbow fucking nuts.
I'm in full agreement with you there. but if you step into that world of believing in the bible, it does make a lot of sense. The Old Testament is full of God visiting collective punishment on people having taken an average reading of their righteousness and decided to wipe out the fucking lot.
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dodge one
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Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 15, 2010, 15:14
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Just to clarify. Pat Robertson's use of biblical indictments aside.
He had it so fucking wrong to begin with. I knew when i posted this thread that Haitian Voodoo is not even Satanic as Pat Robertson says it is.
It's an amalgamation of West African Religions{animist types} and Roman Catholicism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou
The Prayer in question that the Haitians invoked had nothing to do with Satan or any Mephistophelian pact. The Actual Goddess that was invoked can be researched here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezili_Dantor
This is the 'Actual' Ceremony that was used.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_Ca%C3%AFman
Where the Christian Devil comes into this completely escapes logic.
PS: To Whom It May Concern,
If you don't like my WIKI references.....Fuck Off.
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handofdave
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Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 15, 2010, 17:14
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American evangelicals don't make any distinctions, Dodge... to them Animism and Catholicism are both in league with 'Satan'. They think ANY religion that isn't their own is.
Floors me every time I hear them boast of being the 'TRUE' Christians. They're basing their entire worldview on a translation of a translation of an oral tradition. And they're notoriously selective about what morals and lessons they choose to abide by and what they choose to ignore.
As I've said many times, it's more a tribal phenomenon than a religious one. And in America, of course, it's all tied in with nationalism, too.
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drewbhoy
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Edited Jan 15, 2010, 20:55
Re: Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson on Haiti
Jan 15, 2010, 20:55
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handofdave wrote:
As I've said many times, it's more a tribal phenomenon than a religious one. And in America, of course, it's all tied in with nationalism, too.
And that would be nationalism spelt with a capital N, very scary and divisive. I know most Americans aren't like that but they do get an extraordinary amount of TV time. Is there any way of shutting them up without going to far down the censorship road because most of what they say is obnoxious tripe? They certainly don't practice what they preach, or the other way round. Gobshites the lot of them!
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